Technology has led us now, over the last 14 years, to be able to do so much more. We can build better pilots, which was the goal in 2010 when we passed that rule. Build better pilots. Now we can, using other means, and I think we have to now entertain that.

I would like, and I’ve been very public about this, we need to stop talking about hours. That’s not the focus. The battle lines have been drawn for so many years now, and it’s so vitriolic that when one side or the other says anything about anything, they might tell us the sky is blue this afternoon and the other side will go, no, it’s not, because they just are diametrically opposed to anything the other side has to say.